Archive for September, 2007

Greenwald

is spot on as usual:

It really is the height of strangeness to witness the shrieking and self-righteous rage over the MoveOn ad as though such insinuations are prohibited in American political debates, the Line that Cannot be Crossed. That line is crossed routinely, and has been for decades, including when directed at a whole array of American combat veterans. Ask George McGovern about that. The only difference this time — the sole difference that has so upset Joe Klein and his fellow media mavens — is that it is being directed at the side that typically wields such accusatory rhetoric, rather than by them.

posted by Tom Tomorrow at 1:13 PM | link
Tech bleg

(deleted, problem solved. Many thanks for all responses.)

posted by Tom Tomorrow at 8:28 PM | link
Today is the sixth anniversary of an enormous opportunity

Time to rerun this.

posted by Jonathan Schwarz at 12:04 PM | link
If You Win, You Lose

Atrios says what should obvious to every presidential candidate :

If I were a Democrat running for president I wouldn’t be looking forward to inheriting this mess and would be working to end it sooner, not later.

It’s sad that candidates like Obama and Clinton aren’t willing to lead on withdrawing from Iraq when they’re the two most likely to get stuck cleaning up Bush’s mess. If a Democrat gets stuck having to be the President that pulls out the troops, they’ll be turned into a right-wing caricature of the “cut and run” liberal who’s afraid to finish the job. Stop listening to 2004’s poll numbers and say what everyone’s thinking but the President : “This war needs to end.”

posted by Greg Saunders at 6:24 PM | link
Priorities

Sometimes I argue with friends who believe the people who run America are utterly indifferent to human life. I tell them: “You couldn’t be more wrong. If you made up a list of the top 1000 priorities of the people who run America, human life might come in as high as 997th.”

I was pleased to see my perspective validated in George Packer’s recent New Yorker article about Iraq:

David Kilcullen, an Australian counter-insurgency adviser who served on Petraeus’s staff…drew up a list of core American interests in Iraq, which he later gave to senior officials at the White House and the State Department. In order of priority, the list contained the following items: maintain the flow of oil and gas in the region; prevent the establishment of an Al Qaeda safe haven in Iraq; contain Iranian influence; prevent a regional war; prevent a humanitarian catastrophe on the scale of Rwanda; and restore American credibility in the region and in the world (which Kilcullen called “the master interest,” and which doing all the others would go a long way toward achieving).

You see? They do care! Human life is on the list! Right there after their four higher priorities! Of which the top one is oil!

The best part is that mere paragraphs later, Packer expresses this concern:

Even in narrow strategic terms American interests would be harmed by large-scale slaughter in Iraq. The spectacle, televised around the world, would deepen the feeling that America is indifferent to human, especially Muslim, life.

Yes, it would be terrible if the world were to get such a distorted picture of America. We must make them understand how we really feel: that human life is wonderful, as long as it doesn’t conflict with all our higher priorities.

posted by Jonathan Schwarz at 8:07 PM | link
These Colors Sorta Run

What happens when a grandstanding fool whipped into a patriotic fervor makes a sucker’s bet that George W. Bush would do a good job?

Bob Flournoy swore after 9/11 that he would wear the same patriotic tie until the day Osama bin Laden was captured or killed.

He figured that it would take the USA a couple of weeks to find the notorious terrorist leader. Despite that miscalculation — it’s been almost six years — the city attorney has kept his word. He’s been wearing the same red-white-and-blue necktie since the attacks on America.

“It looks like Francis Scott Key’s Star-Spangled Banner,” Flournoy tells The Lufkin (Texas) Daily News. “It is faded, worn and tattered. It has been reworked, patched and pieced together. Velcro has been added around the neck because it is too fragile to tie and untie. It is smaller and even a little smelly, but it is still a grand old flag. Betsy Ross would be proud.”
. . .
“If Bin Laden is alive, I challenge him to prove it by Sept. 11, 2007,” Flournoy says. “If he does not come forward with some proof, I am personally going to declare him dead, and I will be able to take off my tie and give it a proper burial.”

Poor guy just wants to take off his smelly tie and in a few more days…

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Crap. Osama just messed with the wrong Texan.
Flournoy said he has had enough of waiting for proof of bin Laden’s death. He thinks his friends and those around him every day will be very happy once he stops wearing the tie.

“Flies kind of gather around me, and I don’t have quite as many friends,” Flournoy said.
. . .
“If by chance Bin Laden is not dead and proves it by Sept. 11th, I offer to meet him, man to man, at the park at City Hall and fight him to the death of one of us,” Flournoy said. “He just can’t kill Americans and get away with it.”

Flournoy doubts his challenge will reach Tora Bora, but wants a way to put his tattered old flag tie to rest once and for all.

“It’s been fun, but the fun’s about to end,” Flournoy said.

That’s right, Osama. You’re about to get your ass kicked by somebody wearing a disgusting tie. Let’s Roll!

posted by Greg Saunders at 7:56 PM | link
Salon WMD story seemingly overstated

updated below

Salon is running a big story by Sidney Blumenthal headlined “Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction.” But while I hate to throw a wet blanket on everyone, and it’s hard to know for sure, it appears overstated.

The story’s about Naji Sabri, Saddam’s foreign minister. As has been known for several years, Sabri was recruited as a spy by France, which then arranged for him to provide information to the US. And while he didn’t say Iraq was teeming with banned weapons, he apparently also didn’t say they were clean. Here’s a Washington Post story from 2006:

[Sabri] provided information that the Iraqi dictator had ambitions for a nuclear program but that it was not active, and that no biological weapons were being produced or stockpiled, although research was underway.

When it came to chemical weapons, Sabri told his handler that some existed but they were not under military control, a former intelligence official familiar with the situation said. Another former official added: “He said he had been told Hussein had them dispersed among some of the loyal tribes.”

Now, here’s how Blumenthal’s story begins:

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

These stories actually don’t contradict each other. According to the Post, Sabri did say the Iraqi government itself had no actual banned weapons. So Blumenthal’s story is literally correct that Sabri claimed “Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction.” However, there’s a significant difference between the head of the CIA telling the president “we have a spy who says Saddam wants a nuke, is hiding WMD programs and gave out chemical weapons to his tribal allies” and “we have a spy who says Iraq isn’t hiding anything.” The way the story’s written gives you the impression it was the latter rather than the former. (And since it was the former, Sabri’s claims haven’t “turned out to be accurate in every detail.”)

In fact, the Sabri story has always been the one part of all this that’s made me feel sympathetic toward the Bush administration. If what Sabri was saying had been right, then they would have been justified in believing Iraq truly wasn’t taking this last opportunity to come clean. They might well have believed that, whether or not the Iraqi military turned out to have actual WMD when U.S. troops arrived, Sabri’s claims made it clear there was no way to disarm Saddam without an invasion.

So while no one wants to see these guys nailed on the WMD issue more than me, I don’t think the Salon story does it. Instead, I get the impression Blumenthal’s CIA sources are spinning what happened pretty hard. The clearest evidence of this is Tenet’s February 5, 2004 speech on Iraq, in which he made reference to Sabri:

[A] source who had direct access to Saddam and his inner circle said Iraq was not in the possession of a nuclear weapon. However, Iraq was aggressively and covertly developing such a weapon.

Saddam had recently called together his nuclear weapons committee, irate that Iraq did not yet have a weapon because money was no object and they possessed the scientific know-how. The committee members assured Saddam that once fissile material was in hand, a bomb could be ready in 18 to 24 months. The return of U.N. inspectors would cause minimal disruption because, according to the source, Iraq was expert at denial and deception.

The same source said that Iraq was stockpiling chemical weapons and that equipment to produce insecticides under the oil-for-food program had been diverted to covert chemical weapons production.

The source said that Iraq’s weapons of last resort were mobile launchers armed with chemical weapons which would be fired at enemy forces in Israel; that Iraqi scientists were dabbling with biological weapons with limited success, but the quantities were not sufficient to constitute a real weapons program.

It would be pretty odd if Tenet had told Bush in September, 2002, “Sabri says they have nothing!” and then said this in public eighteen months later. I strongly suspect he said the same thing both times, and the “Saddam’s regime itself doesn’t have WMD right this second” part is being cherry picked out of it in 2007.

In any case, the most interesting part to me is what Sabri was up to. Was he lying? Or unknowingly providing false information—and if so, why did he believe it? Maybe someday we’ll find out, since according to the Salon piece he’s now spending France’s money in Qatar.

UPDATE: Thanks for the comments at my site. To clarify, I agree the WMD issue is a distraction. The only thing that matters is Bush & co. wanted war and didn’t care what the facts were. Moreover, in politics, spending time on “intelligence” is always a trap. It has almost nothing to do with what happens. (See Arthur Silber.)

I also agree Tenet was probably spinning things himself at Georgetown (in the other direction). He’s a shameless hack.

However, the reason I pointed this out is because careful journalism is important—because it’s important for people to stay in complicated reality, rather than believing misleading stories because they want to believe them. It concerns me when I see “our” “side” doing this. In particular, I think commenter Donald Johnson is correct that Blumenthal presented things this way because it seems to get Democrats off the hook.

posted by Jonathan Schwarz at 8:55 PM | link
Democrats and the Iron Law of Institutions

Driven nigh unto madness by the boot-licking cravenness of the Democratic Party? I’ve written a long post examining what actually motivates the Democrats. Counter-intuitively enough, it’s not winning elections.

posted by Jonathan Schwarz at 11:13 AM | link
Republican freakshow

Roy has it about right. And boy, is that Fox News crew one bunch of seasoned professionals or what? I mean, whatever you may think of Ron Paul (and I’m no fan), was it really appropriate to have someone giggling loudly off camera every time he responded to a question? (I was half-watching the debate while doing some other stuff — was it ever clear who exactly was so full of mirth?) Not to mention Chris Wallace’s instant-classic follow-up question: “”You’re basically saying that we should take our marching orders from al Qaida?” Amazing that the Democrats ever considered taking part in a debate hosted by these clowns. They almost managed to make the You Tube snowman look dignified by comparison.

(Edit: Wallace quote fixed…)

adding: a reader says Rudy G. was the giggler. Very Presidential!

posted by Tom Tomorrow at 9:43 AM | link
Jesus wept

GEORGE Bush is a man who likes a short sentence. Which is not to say the President of the United States reduces ideas to bite-sized chunks. Or maybe it is. Either way, during the course of his first 24 hours in Sydney, there were plenty of efficient exclamations. Like the exchange on the tarmac as Deputy Prime Minister Mark Vaile inquired how things were going in Iraq. “We’re kicking ass,” he declared.

Via.

posted by Tom Tomorrow at 11:40 AM | link
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